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“What Deb and I have found around the country is that the closer up you see the United States—the more you are at the neighborhood and community level—the more hopeful you feel.”
![James and Deborah Fallows](https://speeches.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/JD_Fallows_web.jpg)
James and Deborah Fallows, journalists and co-authors of “Our Towns: A 100,000-Mile Journey into the Heart of America,” delivered this forum address on February 15, 2022.